How recent was the site cleared?

[Robyn Tact]

I'm glad this is the first post you see when looking up the game. If the current devs behind the game really are alt-right trash, I'm glad I got prior warning before wasting my time getting invested.

Sorry to hear you had so much shit flung your way.

[snon]

Has Cronus ever offered even an insincere apology?

[Agent]

2 hours ago, snon said:

Has Cronus ever offered even an insincere apology?

Yes, but not for calling me a faggot or even for anything he did, instead just for things being “messy”. Generally the message seemed to be along the lines of “not sorry for anything I did lol I would definitely do it all again lol but sorry you feel like what I did was wrong lol”.

And I have no doubt he’d do it again, it’s not like I’m the first person he’s gone out of his way to screw over.

[snon]

"Sorry you're such a bitch"
That sucks.
I still find it odd that TA finds the path of sweeping this under the rug and hoping the majority of players don't know/don't care/agree with Cronus easier than actually addressing it in some form or fashion.
Non-descript statements of "holding the game hostage." meanwhile it was partly over the repeated and prolonged bigoted comments of one team member to another. It paints TA as a clandestine sect of bigoted freelance volunteer game devs who have an agreement with Electronic Arts lol.

[Agent]

Honestly I don't get it, the only way I know how to describe is "pretty face antagonistic" where they'll use some completely random descriptors to belittle any claims (i.e: "holding the game hostage"), which is insulting, while completely ignoring any responsibility they have and completely ignoring that they're the ones in the wrong. People just go along with it. The place is a cult.

Like ffs, imagine robbing someone's house, and then the victim saying "you know what, fine, I haven't pressed charges, please stop using my stolen possessions though", and then waiting an entire year for them to take their darn time to move away from using your works. Then they point out that you said they could borrow the lawn mower and you say okay fine whatever keep the stupid lawnmower, but quit using the rest. That's unheard of levels of tolerance, which they pissed on, and they have the gall to say the DMCA notices are "frivolous" when they've had an entire year to remove those works. Then after that, they're childish and petty enough to block my home IP from the website and such? Like seriously fuck off, that's a whole different level of entitlement.

Which yeah, a year after telling them to cease using my works, which they agreed to do mind you, they're still using them. Their response to DMCA notices was to literally move hosts to one who gloats about tossing out 99% of DMCA notices, instead of just removing the works. The whole bunch is nothing but a bunch of crooks as far as I'm concerned at this point.

I even went through the effort of reading through US copyright law and quoting the actual law from 17 US Code, including pointing out that what they're doing is literally criminal. Completely ignored. They literally do not care that they're flagrantly breaking the law, and indeed go out of their way to continue getting away with doing so, moving hosts and all.

I have never in my life heard of people so resistant to just doing basic things to make things right, things which cost nothing. An apology costs nothing. Getting rid of a bigoted criminal racist costs nothing. Removing my works actually costs nothing. Fairly negotiating for those works instead of being forced to remove them, can cost nothing. None of those things are asking for much, and none of those things would be remotely close to the wrong thing to do. It actually blows my mind. They would actually rather risk going to court, losing, and consequently being forced into bankruptcy + assume criminal risk (there's easily both criminal copyright and CFAA issues at hand) + be personally liable for any civil judgement, than do anything that any normal decent person would do.

It's irrational, and it says quite a bit. I'm not exactly asking for anything unreasonable, just basic decency, any basic decency, and it's so incredibly frustrating.

[Tapulela]

What a shame is to read people treat you like this. Like for real, someone tried to make you chose which of all the bad things that happened to you are worse. Like if that even matters.

Not gonna lie. I think that if "it's childish" to "hold hostage a game" so be it. Serves them well. If  it's within your capability are doing it without breaking any law then you should do it. Not only by the fact that other people are making profit of your creation without an actual specified set of rules in a contract that allowed them to do so, but also because they're very mean. Some people just learn the hard way.

People keep talking about you not being the creator and "taking personal something that x person said", yet that doesn't really matters when it comes down to answer the question of are you entitled to something for your work and time spent on this project.

People can and WILL judge you in hilarious ways. It's not worth your time. The only person who decides if something Cronus said it's mean or not it's you (Eventually will be a judge who decides, but meanwhile, your opinion is the only one that matters).

[Iee]

Can't believe there are people here who would support someone slinging profanities and racist/homophobic/transphobic remarks like it was their mother-tongue. Y'all give us OG Renegade players a bad name.

Also, you didn't deserve to deal with that shit Agent. Immature devs like Cronus deserve to crash and burn along with their attitudes. The game be damned, but optimally you and your team would want your years of work retrieved. I wish you guys best of luck.

[Plus]

On 3/10/2022 at 10:48 PM, Agent said:

To expand on that, no reply from received for the following message; instead, a ban was issued:

 

And to expand on that, I present to you Cronus:

Who also happened to be scheming literally a month before it happened, like the day after Havoc left:

 

But apparently I'm the unreasonable one for wanting to be treated like a decent human being, as opposed to continuing to be treated worse than trash.

"It was meant to be but in a funny way" Why can't he just say "KICK ME IN THE TEETH! I NEED SOMEONE TO MAKE ME SUFFER!!!" It takes a lot less mental gymnastics and gets the same results. Honestly, people who take pleasure from other people's suffering should be destroyed on a fundamental level, have their entire existence removed from this world and all others, every achievement, every memory, everything that is proof to their existence erased.

Bottom line: People who think hurting other people is funny should die painfully. I'm not trying to be edgy, that's just how I feel.

[Koopak]

God checking in to see this is a bummer but if anything i feel like you shouldn't have had to face this Agent and something should have changed a long time ago. This treatment is beyond unacceptable.

 

Let me be clear to anyone who thinks this is remotely okay. The behavior Cronus demonstrates here would be an automatic ban from any community I have ever been a part of across multiple political, social, and interest groups. I don't give two shits about any of the ideas, views, or concepts of 'just don't be upset by words'. If you cant make even a token attempt to work with someone who is offended by words most people would consider offensive and are classified by most entities, social, corporates, and political, as slurs, then you are not offering basic human respect.

[Agent]

1 hour ago, Koopak said:

The behavior Cronus demonstrates here would be an automatic ban from any community

Remember, I am literally banned for apparently complaining with absolutely no explanation or clarification given. From a project I dumped thousands of hours and thousands of dollars into. It’s worse than a lack of basic respect, it’s egregiously insulting.

[Cat]

Agent, I have information that may be relevant to you and I have sent a friend request to Agent#0001 on Discord

[Agent]

Got bored made funny

 

[Mora]

After 4 years I wanted to return and I see drama.
Some tldr for what happened? (And why my account is gone?)

[Gex_str]

About account info: entire forums was moved to a different domain due to what happened. It's now branded under Totem Arts.
As for what happened: best advice I can give is to listen to both sides of conflict, one side is here, another side can be found on TA forums/Discord.

[Agent]

On 9/20/2022 at 1:31 PM, Gex_str said:

About account info: entire forums was moved to a different domain due to what happened. It's now branded under Totem Arts.
As for what happened: best advice I can give is to listen to both sides of conflict, one side is here, another side can be found on TA forums/Discord.

Their “side” is to literally hide posts and ban anyone who talks negatively about them, and to never own up to any mistakes. It’s a joke.

[BrokenArrow]

15 hours ago, Agent said:

Their “side” is to literally hide posts and ban anyone who talks negatively about them, and to never own up to any mistakes. It’s a joke.

You are describing exactly your behaviour and your character and how you treated others. You shouldn't be surprised that others are now doing the same to you.