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suicide console command

Postby zunnie » Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:37 am

Players can type 'suicide' in the console to kill themselves and spawn back in base.
I think this command needs to go.

You placed your c4, there is no more use for you to be there, suicide, spawn in base.

Now in AOW servers this 'tactic' maybe not used very often but in clan games it will be.

If you are really stuck then you have three options:

- wait for the enemy to kill you
- toss your time c4 so you get killed
- rejoin the server
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RE: suicide console command

Postby Strike » Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:47 am

I think the suicide command can only used by mod ingame/irc commands to unstuck players..

or else there will be abuse in the game.. to quike return to there base
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RE: suicide console command

Postby PermaGrin » Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:52 am

or keep it like Ren with loss of credits
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RE: suicide console command

Postby Demigan » Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:14 pm

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PermaGrin @ Nov 15 2009, 10:52 AM) [url=index.php?act=findpost&pid=29864]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div>
or keep it like Ren with loss of credits[/b]


That about sums it up I guess. I never saw anyone use suicide as a tactic for returning to base because of the credit loss. If you really are stuck, the best thing to do is either rejoin or have a mod kill you/respawn you as the character you were.
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RE: suicide console command

Postby DrummerX » Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:17 pm

Been playing Unreal and Source games and never realized useing a "suicide" command was such a big issue. I like the idea of loss of credits but removing it completely, i have to go against that.
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RE: suicide console command

Postby R315r4z0r » Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:39 pm

Keep it. It was in Renegade, it should be in Renegade X.

But it should have consequences:
-Loss of credits
-Cooldown time

There should be a second kill command allowed by moderators that can kill people without them losing credits (for times when they are stuck or something like that.)
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RE: suicide console command

Postby maty » Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:38 pm

I don't see any harm. If I want to get back to base I just deliberately don't kill enemies and let them get me, jump in the river/lava, run on the tiberium, jump off a cliff, run infront of base defenses.


I only use the suicide command if I get stuck (which has onyl ever occurred once), as in the meantime there are other ways to get killed :D .
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RE: suicide console command

Postby DaemonicKnight » Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:04 am

I use the suicide command for:
1. Just placed a nuke and I cant do anythign else
2. Someone on the other team has just planted a nuke and i am not doign anythign useful and far away from base
3. To trick people into thinking I have left server (Muhahahahah) Mainly on normal UT3 though because renx shows player list on side.

So I would like it to be kept but wouldnt mind if it would leave as maty said there are other ways of dying quickly
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RE: suicide console command

Postby ArcticPrism » Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:21 am

Just make it take your credits like it did in Renegade. People usually only abuse suicide in servers where there are special areas you can spawn at. In normal Renegade, it's rarely worth it to suicide to return to base.
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RE: suicide console command

Postby Qbert987 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:04 pm

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (R315r4z0r @ Nov 15 2009, 12:39 PM) [url=index.php?act=findpost&pid=29903]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div>
Keep it. It was in Renegade, it should be in Renegade X.

But it should have consequences:
-Loss of credits
-Cooldown time

There should be a second kill command allowed by moderators that can kill people without them losing credits (for times when they are stuck or something like that.)
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RE: suicide console command

Postby Gasolin3 » Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:42 pm

Keep it with no consequences! Why? Bug fix.

Earlier I couldn't move at all, suicide fixed that. Also the engineer weapon sound was stuck and it was getting annoying, suicide fixed that.

Someone killing you or you blowing yourself isn't always possible by the way.
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RE: suicide console command

Postby dyslexicdavey » Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:06 pm

or maybe just add a spawn time, 20-25 sec's... thin its not much use other thin when its a bug, and you don't have to give up your credits...will ppl still use it other thin for a bug? yes. but not as much if they have to set for 20 sec's or w/e ....
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RE: suicide console command

Postby DrummerX » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:00 pm

I don't understand why people are still calling "suicide" a bug.....

I really don't like the idea of a spawn time, that just usually leads to increase in spawn killing. (Play many other types of games where this has become an issue).

If anything happens due to this thread, just make suicide'ing cost credits.
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RE: suicide console command

Postby kenz3001 » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:21 pm

why remove it ... if you wonna kill yaself just stand still for a second lol but it is good for when you get stuck not often but it dose happen ...but there shoud be a penalty, kill points given to other team or taken off your team and a spawn time out for (x) seconds.
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